Posts Tagged ‘ Spiritual Gifts

Another Thought On the Perfect.

A few weeks back I wrote a post on “the perfect” mentioned in 1 Corinthians 13:10.  I put forward the position that the perfect Paul is writing about is not Christ, but rather the perfect revelation found in the New Testament.  I was discussing this via twitter with @StevenPatton and the following came to me:

Paul points out a lack of efficacy found in the gift of tongues in 1 Corinthians 13:1, if it is employed without love it is nothing more than a clanging cymbol.  Likewise for other signs expressed through man.  These would include faith (expressed through, not originating from), prophetic powers, wisdom & knowledge, or material and physical sacrifice.  All of these are rendered to be so much white noise without love.

What strikes me is the contrast between the modes of revelation that are akin to a dim mirror to the complete (perfect) mode of revelation that allows us to see face to face (His Word).  Though a Corinthian could speak in tongues or prophecy, there is little worth if it is done without love.  God’s Word is not so handicapped.

For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. (Hebrews 4:12)

…so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it. (Isaiah 55:11)

The most popular responses I hear to the question “How are you obeying your Great Commission?  How are you showing people Christ?” is “I show by example.  Leading a good life, not doing bad stuff. Stuff like that.”

While I wouldn’t ever want to discourage any Christian from leading such a life – I would point out that such a life is nothing more than a resounding gong if it is without love.  And while we may be generally loving people, or at least we like to think we are, there are multiple times where our moral lives aren’t lived with love, but with judgment, annoyance, arrogance, etc.  As such, there’s not much to them when it comes to showing people Christ.

But God’s word? The perfect?  That’s a different story.  God gave it to us as a completed piece of His revelation.  It’s effectiveness is not reliant on us – but through the Holy Spirit.  Romans 13:13-14 doesn’t require anything of me to be true or effective.  It is both, because it is part of the completed revelatory Word of God provided for mankind.  And when that is examined next to tongues, which are empty without love, it’s easy to see how one is noted to be passing and dim and the other perfect and clear.

Let us walk properly as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and sensuality, not in quarreling and jealousy.  But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires. (Romans 13:13-14)

The Perfect

If the perfect-plex was so perfect, why did people always kick out of it?

Wrong perfect.

The discussion on Spiritual Gifts from yesterday made me think about 1 Corinthians 13:8-13 — specifically the part about “the perfect”.  Most charismatics I know (and also the ones I don’t know) understand this passage to mean the second coming of Christ.  But not so fast…

I recall a great presentation from seminary a couple of years back by Pastor Rich Peralez.  I’ll try to give the bullet points from memory.  The text says (emphasis mine):

[8] Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. [9] For we know in part and we prophesy in part, [10] but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. [11] When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. [12] For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.

Now, both sides agree that what’s partial & passing are the spiritual gifts, such as tongues.  It’s a matter of when.  If the perfect means Christ’s return, then spiritual gifts should continue until then.  But what else would it mean?

I think the answer is Scripture.  At the time Paul is writing his epistle to the Corinthians the canon was not yet completed.  There was more to come and it would be profitable for every good work (1 Timothy 3:16-17) and not something to add to (inferred from Revelation 22:18).

You may say “That seems like a stretch.”  But consider the following about the 2nd coming interpretation.

  • The word used is “telios” which means “brought to its end, finished; lacking nothing necessary to completeness; perfect”.  This describes the completed canon of the Scriptures and also Christ himself, but not so much Christ’s reappearance.  There’s more that follows his 2nd coming.
  • If “perfect” does refer to Christ, it’s the only gender neutral description of him found in the Bible. Curious.
  • So if we understand perfect to mean 2nd coming rather than a neutered Christ, the comparison doesn’t make much logical sense.  Verse 9 says we are knowing in part — with a promise of knowing completely at the perfect.  Now if you’re of the premill persuasion, as many of the early charismatics were, you might say “Yup, during Christ’s 1000 year reign He will be dropping all kinds of knowledge on us & we won’t speak in tongues.”  OK, but I still think there are problems here.
  • If this means Christ’s 2nd coming, then we’re holding a position where spiritual gifts are giving knowledge in part that is otherwise unavailable (say through the completed & sufficient canon of Scripture).  This is a problem.

You see, the whole passage reads as a comparison of something incomplete and fleeting contrasted against a fullness.  Paul uses the metaphor of a dim mirror vs. the clear vision of seeing face to face.  Some do injustice to the literary style by mixing the metaphor & taking face to face to mean looking Jesus in the eyes… but there’s no indication that’s what it means and it strains his comparison.  These gifts are finite and show knowledge and authority of God for those in and around the church.  The completed canon of Scriptures do the same — but in an entirely sufficient manner.  So if the gifts are a dim reflection of God’s perfect and completed Word to us… why do we still need them?  And if Paul is talking about the Scripture instead of Christ’s return, why would we insist that he was wrong about the gifts coming to a close (1 Cor. 13:8)?

Cessationist Bullet Points

Just like the apostles!

Benny Hinn's Holy Coat of Smiting gives him +2 Defense.

Spiritual Gifts!  Let’s talk about them again.  Now I’m a cessationist when it comes to the issue.  I’d better explain what that means.  The popular straw-man is that a cessationist is fearful of the Holy Spirit and leaves no room for Him to work in the life of a Christian.  This is dumb.

No, a cessationist is someone who acknowledges the spirtual gifts mentioned in the book of Acts but believes they no longer continue.  Clarification: This does not mean that God cannot employ the means he thinks necessary for salvation – so cessationism isn’t putting a limit on God.

The cessationist argument in a nutshell is this: The work of the Holy Spirit in the apostolic age was to show the truth behind – (wait for it) – apostolic teaching (2 Corinthians 12:12).  Apostolic churches were regularly practicing these gifts, so much so that Paul’s letter to the infant church of Corinth gives language suggesting it to be a normal or common occurrence (1 Corinthians 14:26).  As the apostolic age came to a close, so did the expression of Spiritual gifts, as there were no longer apostles which needed validating as they had fulfilled their calling and purpose by establishing the canon of the Holy Scriptures.

So if the gifts are still happening – why are they still happening?

Even with a Biblical why, there’s still the problem of where & how it came to be.  That these gifts which were so regular that Paul included them in a discussion about common worship, it seems odd that they only pop up now in select groups.   We don’t see a similar pattern of preferential distribution of the fruits of the spirit, but we are led to believe that this is the case for the gifts of the spirit.  B.B. Warfield addresses this issue very aptly here and here.

And lastly, if the gifts are still happening, which ones and to what degrees?  This seems like a silly question, but there’s no shortage of folks to are cessationist with certain gifts but maintain continuation for others.  So which ones and why?  Tongues only? Prophesy too? Healing? Working Miracles?  Are these gifts a 1:1 representation of those in the apostolic age?  If not, is there any Biblical indication as to why this would be?  Am I asking enough questions?  Are these rhetorical questions?

I guess we’ll work this out in the comments.  Or at least, I hope we will.

Tongues speaking heresy.

Honest question (not trolling): Who were the orthodox proponents for continuation of spiritual gifts in the early church? I’m not seeing it.

From what I’ve read of Warfield, he doesn’t seem to think there were any either. I haven’t read the writings of the 2nd century so exhaustively that I can say anything definitively, but it does seem that the proponents of continuation weren’t generally the most sound people. The Montanists, Tertullian being the most famous alum, were strict ascetics who followed a former Phyrigian priest claiming to have a direct revelation called the “age of the Paraclete”. This was bolstered by the visions of “prophetesses” Priscilla & Maxilla who claimed to have been given revelation of the end times. They subsequently left their husbands to devote their lives to the church and taught that holding church offices was bueno for women. So yeah, not a lot of orthodoxy present, but a familiar picture when compared the founding of some modern charistmatic churches.

What’s my point? Well… my thinking is framing up issues like continuationism & credo-baptism (to a lesser extent) as ideas that are assumed as facts by their adherents. These are questions begged to a level I like to call “Well, duh. Of course that’s true.” But early proponents of continuationism all seemed to be theologically jacked up. The modern day rank & file, eager for a life reflective of the clear teaching of Scriptures are moving towards a Reformed & Covenantal theology (hooray!). But they’re bringing a few things with them and reinterpreting Scripture to justify themselves along the way. So I’m seeing continuationism not as a good apostolic teaching which has been faithfully carried on by those devoted to sound doctrine from the earliest NT church until now, but as an idea that came hand in hand with unorthodox teaching. Just like Isildur wouldn’t destroy the One Ring in the fires of Mount Doom after defeating Sauron, so modern adherents of continuing spiritual gifts won’t let go of “the precious” even though they’ve dropped the bad theology it rode into town upon.

Then there’s guys like this, who haven’t dropped the bad theology or the “precious”.